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Friday, January 20, 2012
Prejudice, Slavery, Racism & Racial Slurs
This is a subject that I rarely cover because for me this should be a no brainer. However there are times where I encounter stupidity to such a massive degree that I have no choice but to point out the absolute obserdity of what is going on. The subject of the word Nigger deals with far more then just a racial slur. It deals with how people treat each other in all areas of life because this gets at is the person a bigot or not.
In the history of Humanity there have been countless examples of prejudice, slavery, racism & racial slurs. This is an issue that hasn't just effected one race of people (Black People) but all races. It is absolutely moronic for any one race to try and boohoo how racial slurs are directed at them especially while those same people will use those same racial slurs with each other and that is to be perfectly ok. This hypocracy / a double standard at its most evident.
One doesn't have to look very far in our society to find black people calling each other Nigger or slang derivatives of the word as if they think their using it is cool or even acceptable all because of their own skin color. This is nothing short of racism & those that engage in racial slurs are by definition of the behavior they engage in racists. Especially when those same people see no problem in calling white people Honkey, Whitey & Cracker.
To act like one race of people can dictate to another what words the other can say while they themselves are free to not only use the same word towards members of their race but racial slurs about the other race is simply racism. There is no shortage of ignorance and stupidity in our society however this doesn't mean we as a society must blindly accept this ignorance and stupidity and not challenge it.
Since so many seem completely oblivious to the definition of the word Nigger here it is so we can see exactly what is meant by it.
nig·ger
noun
1. Slang: Extremely Disparaging and Offensive .
a. black person.
b. a member of any dark-skinned people.
2. Slang: Extremely Disparaging and Offensive . a person of any race or origin regarded as contemptible, inferior, ignorant,etc.
3. a victim of prejudice similar to that suffered by blacks; a person who is economically, politically, or socially disenfranchised.
Let's be clear the only part of the definition of the word Nigger that applies to black people is number 1. For anyone to act like this is the only meaning is nothing short of ignorant. Which according to number 2 would qualify them to being called a Nigger. This is regardless of the color of their skin but entirely based on the behavior they engage in.
The people that wish to perpetuate the use of the word Nigger are themselves guilty of keeping that word alive in the social consciousness. Many of these same black people that use the word nigger like water will also use racial slurs like Whitey, Honkey, Cracker, Spick, Gook & Wop. To them using racial slurs is fine because they themselves are racists. Yet these same black people will be completely outraged & offended if a white person uses the word Nigger. Excuse me but if you are engaging in racial slurs at everyone else including your own race you are in no position to boohoo over them being used at you. You do not get to dictate to others what words they can say while maintaining your own racism mindset.
To put a slightly different perspective on this the Atheist could be called a Nigger by the Christian because many Christian's do consider Atheists to be Contemptible, Inferior & Ignorant. Their basis for any of these is their own narrow minded belief system that says anyone that doesn't think as they do is of this mythical devil figure. I regularly see Christian's treating me like I am lesser then them or contemptable all because I have no "Faith" in imaginary beings to which there is no proof they exist. The Prejudice is the same regardless of the skin color of those engaging in the behavior.
Another example of a derogatory slur hurled at one group is the word Faggot. This one is hurled the most by homophobic Christian's at people that are homosexual. By the number 2 definition of the word Nigger a homosexual would also fit in the catagory of a Nigger in the minds of these prejudice people which regard them as inferior & contemptable. This is also not taking the third definition into account either.
When one factors in the third definition there are yet even more people that could be called a Nigger who don't have to have black skin. Anyone that is economically, politically, or socially disenfranchised. This makes the catagory of Nigger so broad as to be able to enclude Black people, Atheists, Homosexuals, The Poor, Anyone in a political third party or someone that feels disenfranchised to the society they are in.
Then there is the historical fact that long before white people had black slaves in the United States black people had white slaves in North Africa. European Christians were enslaved by Muslims in North Africa between 1530 and 1780
http://www.africaresource.com/rasta/sesostris-the-great-the-egyptian-hercules/when-europeans-were-slaves-of-north-africa/
The truth of the matter is slavery has been a part of human societies all the way back to the ancient Sumerian's which are the oldest society we have record of. People of all skin types have been slaves. Women were also regarded as lesser or property of the male. In fact the idea that a wife is property and slavery is acceptable is in the Christian Tenth Commandment. This is one the Christian's want to try and act like should still be part of our society because it was the law from this imaginary God.
The Tenth Commandment:
Exodus 20:17 Thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's house, thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's wife, nor his manservant, nor his maidservant, nor his ox, nor his ass, nor any thing that is thy neighbour's.
In that commandment it is listing the property of the neighbor. In that list of property are the following.
1. A House
2. A Wife
3. A Male Slave
4. A Female Slave
5. An Ox
6. An Ass (Donkey)
7. Or Anything that is the Neighbors
Christian's you simply can't cherry pick out numbers 2, 3 & 4 because it is not socially acceptable to do so. That is simply intellectually dishonest. Oh yes and let's not forget to Covet is dealing with the thoughts a person has which is Thought Crime. Rather tyrannical of you to engage in thought crime.
What all of this boils down to is if you want to not have racial slurs hurled at you:
1. Don't you hurl them at others!
2. Don't use them to others of your own race.
No other race is going around hurling racial slurs at each other as if doing so gives them some kind of power. You never hear a group of Mexican's going Hey my Spick. Now it is true some of them will use the word Nigger which is honestly rather amusing given Mexican's weren't among those that were slaves. But Black people appeariently don't care if a Mexican uses the word Nigger. They only want to dictate to White people what words they can use. Which is rather hypocritical of you. What exactly gives you the right to dictate to someone else what words they can use?
In all of this I didn't even mention the race of people that were nearly genocided by Christian's. Over 100 Million of them were killed. Those being the American Indian's! Some Indian tribes were completely genocided and the few that remain from the others were put on reservations (Concentration Camps) by the Christian White man!
The thing is even though this was horrible and needs to never be permitted to happen again. There is Nothing any white person can do to alter the historical fact that it happened. Additionally no white person today is responcible for what happened back hundreds of years ago. The same goes for what happened to black people!
It is time people grow up and stop trying to boohoo over what happened to others of their race. It never happened to you personally so you don't get to boohoo over it.
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Wednesday, January 18, 2012
Religious Tactic’s That Will Not Work On Me
Even though I accept the label of Atheist / Anti Theist there are aspects where I differ from fundamentalist Atheist’s or Anti Theist’s. I want to stress that where I differ from them is due entirely to what I have experienced in my life.
That being said I want to make it very clear that I see no evidence or reason to believe any God exists. To put it simply a more advanced / evolved Alien race simply is Not a God. I don’t care what Ancient people may have thought.
What I want to cover here is a small list of the Religious Tactic’s that simply will not work with me. I will explain with each why that tactic will not work.
1. Scare Tactic’s / Threats of Hell – The reason this will not work with me is I refuse to be manipulated / intimidated by anyone. Especially someone that wants to claim to be giving a message of Love. If your message is so loving how about giving it without the threats of what will happen to me if I don’t Think as you demand.
2. Thought Crime – This connects to the first one in some ways but it is also different in itself. No one has the right to try and dictate what Thoughts I have. Telling me I must believe in your Jesus is trying to dictate my thoughts. My thoughts are my own. If i wish to share them that is my choice but Freedom of Thought must be maintained otherwise there can be no Freewill at all!
3. Claims of Jesus Christ – I’m just going to say this flat out for all Christian’s. There is No Historical Evidence supporting the existence of a Jesus Christ. Not One Historian, Philosopher or even Satirist from the alleged time of this Jesus wrote a single word about him.
To make matters even worse for the Jesus claims Christian Fraud in the 2nd & 3rd century AD is not only not evidence of your Jesus but hurts your credibility. The truth of the matter is no Scholar from as early as the 1800′s considered Jesus Christ to be a Historical figure.
4. The bible is the Inspired word of God – This is something I hear that must be an absolute joke. The creation myth was originally a Sumerian story not an Israelite one. The Flood Story was also Sumerian. It was the Epic Of Gilgamesh. While the Ten Commandments were stolen from the Egyptian Book of the Dead. Spell 125. The wording was changed slightly but the basic premise was there.
While the New Testament was completely made up by Christian’s after the 3rd Century AD. Which By The Way was about the same time the City of Nazareth first appeared.
5. Faith – Frankly if all you have is telling me, “It’s a matter of Faith” you can really save your breath. When I hear Faith what I think of is Delusional Disorder. Because the way Delusional Disorder is defined fits Faith perfectly.
Delusional Disorder is – A Firm belief or conviction in something despite evidence to the contrary.
When that fits what you believe about Invisible, Sadistic, God Men and you have nothing else just admit it You Have Nothing. It is ok to not know it all. Scientists admit all the time, “We don’t know it all.”
This isn’t a problem it only means you must keep your mind open to new Evidence. Not close your mind to anything that isn’t in an ancient book of Death & Scribblings.
I am not opposed to the idea of a consciousness behind the universe. However this would no more be making demands on us then we would go making demands on Inchworms.
If you are yelling at inchworms that they aren’t living up to your standard you really need a visit from the men in the white coats.
Tuesday, January 17, 2012
The Fear base of Monotheism
The greatest lie that I feel theists tell is that their religion is based on Love. I honestly don't understand how anyone can even try to suggest that a religion whose message is rooted in "Believe as we say or be tortured" can have the gall to call their message loving. This is the biggest Oxymoron I have ever heard!
The idea of torture / suffering to those that don't do as they are told or dare to think differently is really all through the bible. It begins with the Adam & Eve story and doesn't stop through the rest of the sadistic bible. Oh sure along the way there can be some parts that don't seem so bad or may even sound like a good idea in themselves. IE "Love Your Neighbor" However when you examine that along with the rest of the bible it becomes clear that your neighbor doesn't include everyone but only those that are part of your tribe / religion.
Here is an example of what I mean.
Leviticus 19:18 Thou shalt not avenge, nor bear any grudge against the children of thy people, but thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself: I am the LORD.
Then Compare that to these.
Leviticus 20:13 If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.
Note the love thy neighbor didn't even make it 1 chapter before the negative Kill message appears. This also gets into the bigotry of the bible but that is a different issue.
There is also this.
Leviticus 20:27 A man also or woman that hath a familiar spirit, or that is a wizard, shall surely be put to death: they shall stone them with stones: their blood shall be upon them.
There are tons of examples I could give but those are in the very next chapter of Leviticus. Now I am also fully aware of how the Theist will bend over backwards to try and Excuse or Justify these brutal commands while screaming the nice parts as loud as they can.
This is nothing short of Cherry Picking. There is no way to put a nice face on this. To intentionally Ignore or Excuse / Justify something because it is part of your religion's so-called Holy book is nothing short of Cherry Picking / Using Selective Judgment.
However for those that will admit that the Old Testament God is a Prick but will say Jesus was a Nice guy I have this for you. In all of the Old Testament for as brutal and Sadistic as that God clearly was at least when you died he was done with you.
But when Jesus showed up he showed that he could be just as Narcissistic as the Old Testament God. If not worse. Take the Temptation of Jesus as a prime example. This was called one of the "Evil" things this Satan did. Even though I contend that Testing / Tempting someone isn't evil at all.
However Satan said this:
Matthew 4:8 - 9 Again, the devil taketh him up into an exceeding high mountain, and sheweth him all the kingdoms of the world, and the glory of them; And saith unto him, All these things will I give thee, if thou wilt fall down and worship me.
Not only does this Jesus turn right around and do the same damn thing with people only changing the destination offered. He adds a sick little sadistic twist to his. Not only does he say Worship me & I'll give you Heaven but refuse and I will torture you forever in Hell.
John 3:15 That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life.
The entire basis of why to believe (Think) what you are told is given with a Carrot & Stick approach. The so-called Reward has no meaning without the Threat being put in as well.
Bear in mind this is also classic Thought Crime. The entire basis of this Perishing (Hell) or Eternal Life (Heaven) is based not on how you treat other or what good things you do but entirely upon the Thoughts in your head.
This is also adding the sadistic twist of unless you believe (Think) as you are told when you die Jesus's fun is just beginning. Unlike the Old Testament God that was done with you at death this Jesus only gets really sadistic after you are dead.
However this Jesus also turned around and kept changing the conditions for getting into this Kingdom of Heaven.
1. Matthew 5:20 For I say unto you, That except your righteousness shall exceed the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, ye shall in no case enter into the kingdom of heaven.
2. Matthew 18:3 And said, Verily I say unto you, Except ye be converted, and become as little children, ye shall not enter into the kingdom of heaven.
3. John 3:3 3:3 Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.
Then we have the sickest one of them all! And one which is a Sin by Old Testament Law.
4. John 6:53 - 56 Then Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Except ye eat the flesh of the Son of man, and drink his blood, ye have no life in you. Whoso eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, hath eternal life; and I will raise him up at the last day. For my flesh is meat indeed, and my blood is drink indeed. He that eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, dwelleth in me, and I in him.
This is Explicitly Forbidden in the Old Testament.
Leviticus 17:12 Therefore I said unto the children of Israel, No soul of you shall eat blood, neither shall any stranger that sojourneth among you eat blood.
As if that doesn't make you question the Christian religion and Jesus Check out Proverbs 17:15 He that justifieth the wicked, and he that condemneth the just, even they both are abomination to the LORD.
That is Christianity through and through!
Acts 13:39 And by him all that believe are justified from all things, from which ye could not be justified by the law of Moses.
Romans 3:24 Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus:
The idea that Jesus was Innocent / Just is also expressed in the New Testament.
Matthew 27:4 Saying, I have sinned in that I have betrayed the innocent blood. And they said, What is that to us? see thou to that.
Now in case you forgot Proverbs 17:15 He that justifieth the wicked, and he that condemneth the just, even they both are abomination to the LORD.
Getting back to the Fear message of Jesus we then have him advocating Self Mutilation instead of going to Hell. Mark 9:43 - 48
And if thy hand offend thee, cut it off: it is better for thee to enter into life maimed, than having two hands to go into hell, into the fire that never shall be quenched: Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched.
And if thy foot offend thee, cut it off: it is better for thee to enter halt into life, than having two feet to be cast into hell, into the fire that never shall be quenched: Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched.
And if thine eye offend thee, pluck it out: it is better for thee to enter into the kingdom of God with one eye, than having two eyes to be cast into hell fire: Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched.
Without a doubt this is a Fear based message. It is also one that shows this Jesus thinking a physical injury in life will be how you look in Heaven. "it is better for thee to enter into the kingdom of God with one eye" Mark 9:47
That is rather stupid for the God Man Jew to say if he knew this afterlife was "Spiritual"
But this Hell bullshit in case you are curious the word Hell in Mark 9 is the Greek word Gehenna which directly refers to Jeremiah 32:35 And they built the high places of Baal, which are in the valley of the son of Hinnom, to cause their sons and their daughters to pass through the fire unto Molech; which I commanded them not, neither came it into my mind, that they should do this abomination, to cause Judah to sin.
Imagine that burning children in fire was an Abomination & a Sin to the Old Testament God. Something He Never Thought Of! Yet clearly Jesus thought of it!
now for those that want to claim Hell is Separation from God Try explaining this: Revelation 14:10 The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb:
Can't exactly have something in the Presence of and Separate from at the same time! This idea of Separation from God is actually Church Dogma it is not in the bible!
This is only the tip of the Ice burg in the pure evil nature of the Jesus figure. The message of Fear is a constant through the bible. Both the Old Testament God and Jesus were big on inducing Fear.
I would contend any parent that would have to resort to threats of violence to get obedience / love is one piss poor parent. To try and use such methods shows that person is a piss poor leader and someone with absolutely no social skills.
After all who among us would respond well to threats of torture? I know I wouldn't.
Why would this require a God?
The entire premise of Intelligent Design is that the Universe needed some kind of intelligence guiding it otherwise it wouldn’t exist. However even if you assume that there needs to be some cosmic designer this still doesn’t mean Christianity or Theism in general has succeeded at all.
Because once you establish that there is a cosmic force behind the Universe the Christian / Theist still has all of their work ahead of them. Because then the Christian must Prove the creator / designer / intelligence is their God. While the Muslim’s would have to prove it is theirs & the Jews would have to prove it is theirs. Hell the Hindu’s & Buddhists could jump in on it at that point and look to prove it is theirs.
After all the Buddhist Brahman would be the easiest to fit into an intelligence behind the universe as the Buddhist’s don’t try and apply any connection between the Brahman and the behaviors of people / situations of the world.
It is the Personal God idea that creates a second and even bigger problem then the claim there must be a God. It is at least Possible that a consciousness exists behind the Universe. A Consciousness on a dimension higher then we exist on.
I have no problem with this idea. I can still safely say there is no god because a Consciousness in a higher dimension wouldn’t even be what we would consider a life form to be. Since we don’t know the attributes of such a consciousness it would be impossible to give a man made label to it such as God. Let alone for one group to try and claim ownership of it. As if they are the only evolved primates that this consciousness would care at all about.
Even assuming a consciousness would give a fart in a high wind about human existence to try and assert that not only does it exist but it is an extreme bigot and only likes your tribe, your click, your group is frankly absurd to the extreme!
What all of this really shows is that the god of Christianity, Islam & Judaism really are nothing but inventions of the Secret Societies that have become what we call today the Illuminati & their ilk.
If you really look at who stands to gain from this tribalism based mind control bullshit it isn’t some mysterious cosmic force but those elite assholes that control all of the money and the leaders of our world.
These ideas of a God really come down to what type of behaviors will you accept from your leaders. If you can go along with a hateful, Think As We Demand Or Be Tortured mindset then you are one that will be apt to go right along with the Hitler like behavior these New World Order assholes wish to bring about.
Christian’s don’t want to consider this possibility even though if you look back at the not so distant past we can see clear evidence of the Disease of Christianity invading a land of Peaceful Indian’s! Peaceful Indian’s that were willing to Share the land with these new people to their land. However the Indian’s had no idea the Greed and Bigotry in these Christian’s.
Not only did those Christian’s nearly genocide the Indian’s completely they turned around and made their invasion and genocide a holiday! Then turned the Hitler’s of that time into hero’s!
Those who stand to gain from these God ideas isn’t a cosmic being but those jackoffs that are controling this fucking world. If they can delude you into thinking that your life may suck now but just wait you’ll be in paradise forever what the fuck do they care. You will eagerly accept Slavery & servatude in the Hope of some grand afterlife which these fuckers know doesn’t exist!
They don’t care that this afterlife doesn’t exist because after all they got what they wanted here and now and your Faith & Hopes don’t mean shit. Their bottom line is Money & Control and you fuckers just hand it all over to them without thought!
How long before people wake up and smell the Bullshit?
How strong must the chains around your necks be before you try and oppose the slavery?
Why Hell is Impossible
I do want to Stress right from the start that this doesn’t apply to all Christian’s or Satanist’s. This concept of Hell, which is from the Christian doctrine, is extremely flawed on multiple levels. Many have realized this but there are a large number that still buy into this primitive way of thinking.
The doctrine of Hell has been a common one for Christian’s for two thousand years. The fact that this very message screams extreme sadism and tyranny many Christian’s seem to have no problem embracing this and somehow still claiming their God to be all loving. How exactly one can be all loving and engage in behavior worse then the worst human to ever exist is frankly beyond me. What I find just as revolting if not more so are the vast numbers of Satanists that clearly accept this bit of Christian bullshit. Not only do they not challenge it many actually use bullshit terms of Burning in Satan’s love.
Satanists, any of you that buy into this bullshit, please provide any documented writing which states Satan burns anyone in fire. If you want to quote the Christian bible I would challenge you to provide Book, Chapter & Verse to support this idea. Why a Satanist would use a bible that is from another religion is beyond me. However I also find it utterly moronic to embrace claims made by a religion that has set itself in direct opposition to you and accepting all of their claims about you. This would be as Dumb as a Republican just accepting anything a Democrat wants to say about them and still being Vote for me. Do you seriously think someone that is opposed to your side will be honest about your side? Satanists you must since you openly embrace the claims made by the Christian’s about what Satan is like. As well as accepting the term Demons as well as Hell.
I find it utterly amazing that it takes an Atheist to stand up and say, “Excuse me but this shit is not even written in your own bible as to coming from a Satan. As if that isn’t enough this idea of a burning lake of fire in an afterlife is flat out impossible.”
What I find even more amazing then Satanist’s that don’t object to these Christian based ideas are these same people getting pissed off at the Atheist that does raise these issues. Excuse me but do you people have a serious masochistic side that you aren’t telling me about? If you want to be set on fire and that is going to be wonderful what exactly is stopping you from taking a gasoline bath? I mean seriously if you want to be an ass and act like this will be so wonderful why not cut to the chase and simply do it now. We have plenty of gasoline and matches you could be in pure bliss right now if burning in fire is your ideal kind of love. The fact that you people don’t do this yet you want to bitch at the Atheist that says this shit is Impossible in an afterlife tells me that you just want to be acting like masochistic assholes but are to afraid to do what you think you’ll love forever.
Now that I have probably pissed off all of the Reverse Christian Satanists out there I am going to really pants you fuckers as well as the stupid Christian’s that buy into this sadistic bullshit message dreamed up by the Church of Rome! That’s right Christian’s and Satanist’s this doctrine of Hell was not taught by Apollonius of Tyana (AKA Jesus Christ) just as his followers were not called Christian’s but followers of The Way. The term Christian was invented by Paul then picked up by Constantine. What Apollonius of Tyana taught was a message of Reincarnation, Vegetarianism & Oneness with Nature. He did refer to The Satan but only in so much as he was referring to sickness or illness not as a physical being. This is clearly evident in the Essene Gospel of Peace.
You may be asking yourself Essene what’s that? During the first century there were about a dozen Jewish Sects or Denominations. One of which was a group of Healers called the Essene’s. Apollonius of Tyana was a member of that group. So your venom against Jesus Christ is venom against a Straw man! It is no different then having hate or contempt for Superman, Spiderman, Batman, or the X Men. While some of what is written in the bible could be accurate for what Apollonius of Tyana taught so much is either omitted or changed as to render what is there completely worthless.
However that having been said here is the Truth of what is in the Christian’s own bible about Hell. Unlike the lies some Christian’s want to tell Jesus (which I already established is a Straw man) didn’t speak more of Hell then Heaven. In fact the reverse is true. The word Heaven occurs 238 Times in the New Testament! Over 100 of them were claimed to be by Jesus! While the word Hell occurs 23 Times in the New Testament! The word Hell used by Jesus in these occurrences is the Greek word gheh’-en-nah. Which is a direct reference to Jeremiah 32:35. This is one even the Christian’s are too stupid to read. So here it is. “And they built the high places of Baal, which are in the valley of the son of Hinnom, to cause their sons and their daughters to pass through the fire unto Molech; which I commanded them not, neither came it into my mind, that they should do this abomination, to cause Judah to sin. “
Ok, Quick bible and history lesson for all the Christian’s and Satanist’s. (Damn an Atheist giving the Christian’s and Satanist’s a Bible and History lesson. This should be worth a few chuckles somewhere.) Baal & Molech were both Canaanite deities. As were El & Yahweh. Among a laundry list of others too. So right off the bat we are dealing with a Pantheon religion not a Monotheism. Hell even with Christianity as it is with God, Jesus, the Holy Casper & Satan this is a Pantheon not a Monotheism. Mono means One not a schizophrenic one deity and a nemesis with a host of lesser beings. This is a Pantheon no matter how you slice it.
However then we have the Valley of the son of Hinnom Or Gehenna. There should be bells going off right now for both Christian’s and Satanist’s! Then we have this Lord God getting pissed off and saying which I commanded them not, neither came it into my mind, that they should do this abomination, to cause Judah to sin.
Number One, Christian’s If this is from your Lord God and If your Lord God Can’t Lie. Numbers 23:19. And your Lord God Can’t Change. Malachi 3:6. Then an Eternal Lake of Fire is Impossible since your Lord God actually said, 1. I commanded them not! 2. Neither came it into my mind! 3. To cause Judah to Sin!
Number Two, Since burning children in fire was never thought of by your Lord God and nowhere in the bible does it say Satan ever thought of this. There is No evidence a Baal or Molech were even real let alone there and did approve of this shit! But only that this is how People were Sacrificing children to their gods. What we have is People being fucked in the head. Which frankly is nothing new we see that in our world today. What this means is this doctrine was made up by the Roman Catholic Church as a means of controlling the stupid masses through fear.
Number Three, Three definitions of the word Hell in the bible. In the Old Testament it was always Sheol. Which meant simply The Grave! In the New Testament there was Hades, which also meant The Grave! Then there was Gehenna which referred to this fucking story, which proves this was a Metaphor, only not a literal anything!
Then there is the biggest problem with this whole Heaven & Hell Afterlife bullshit that is babbled by both Christian’s & Satanist’s. Yea I know winning friends all over in this blog. That main glairing problem with all of this shit is it is 100% Physical! From both of you! Think of that an Afterlife, which means by definition After your Life is Over. Which means the Physical body is Dead. Yet you fuckers still think that fire is there? More amazingly you seriously think even if it would be (in some magical way) that it would phase you? Up until now I have fought the growing urge to go DRR DRR but now we reach a point of this stupidity that I have no choice but to go DRR DRR.
WHY?
Number One; Fire is a Physical reaction of Physical elements maintained by Physical Oxygen! This is not the Hydrogen & Helium Fusion reaction of the Sun since Brimstone can’t exist on the Sun given the Sun is to God damn hot! Brimstone breaks down at 823.28 degrees Fahrenheit. Or 444.6 Degrees Celsius. Considering the Sun’s outer layer is 11,000 Degrees Fahrenheit or 6,000 Degrees Celsius. While the inner pressure of the Sun’s core produces a Temperature between 27,000,000 Degrees Fahrenheit or 11,000,000 Degrees Celsius and a Pressure of 340 Billion times that of Earth’s air pressure at sea level!
Number Two; You would not have a Physical body with a central nervous system or brain. Which means it would be Impossible for you to feel burning at all. All of the evidence about an afterlife points to an Aura body or Energy body. Not one which could be hurt by fire, tortured or killed. For those really stupid and I would add exceptionally sick people that think your Loving God would give some physical bodies by which they could be burned alive. Your God must have had a massive hard on during the Inquisitions. That or been jealous as fuck. The Temperature at which human skin ignites is 480 Degrees Fahrenheit or 248.88 Degrees Celsius! Far below the temperature where brimstone breaks down. Which means you stupid fucks you wouldn’t even get to Hell because you would ignite in the atmosphere and be ashes by the time you hit the lake of fire! Now let’s all say it DRR DRR.
Number Three; A Ghost is the most plausible example of what someone in an Afterlife state would be in. Fire would no more hurt a Ghost then spraying a Ghost with a squirt gun would make it wet. The damn Ghost is in a completely different dimension so things of this dimension wouldn’t mean a God damn thing!
In closing I am not saying there isn’t some kind of life after death. I am an Atheist but I don’t exclude the idea of a life after death only that I see no evidence of any Gods. To explain this just a bit for those who are confused. If something would exist in a higher dimension we wouldn’t have a real term for what exactly it is let alone to consider such a thing even a life form. So the idea of worshipping something which may or may not exist on some higher dimension which I can’t prove even exists is utterly absurd. What is equally as stupid is to think such a force if such would exist that it would think and view reality and our existence exactly as we do. Our perception of what we call reality is based on how our Physical brain interprets the data which comes in via our 5 senses. Then when you factor in the Historical time period, Culture, Economic Status one is born into it becomes obvious that our view of reality and what is good and bad are extremely subjective things and not something written in stone. Let alone be ideas from some mystical force which no one can see or prove even exists.
The only thing that could exist and have a point of view along with an agenda that would be superior to us is an Alien race. You may want to bow and scrape before an Alien race but frankly I would no more worship an Alien then I would worship a human and that would never happen.
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Exactly Which God is Debatable?
There are more excuses for people’s God not doing a thing then for anything else in human history. The absolute dumbest of these is wanting to shift the question from Where is Your God to well People should do something. Excuse me You think Your God can do Anything and is full of all kinds of magical powers. Yet You don’t think this Magical Man in the sky could do far better for far more people in a blink of an eye then any amount of people could ever do?
After all if blinking the Universe into existence isn’t magical powers then someone explain to me exactly what is! Additionally what Exactly are people to do when a Flood, Fire or Tornado occur? Name for me one person that has the power to control Nature at a Whim. You claim your magical God can control nature. So either this destruction and suffering was part of your God’s plan and all you Christian’s that lost your house, Possession and for some even loved ones well your God must have been really pissed off at you! To direct this shit directly at you. Do you think you’re a modern day Job! What’s next are you going to become a modern day Abraham ready to sacrifice your kid to your imaginary friend in the sky?
Then there is this word God. Could you be any more Vague in a name for the Magical being you claim to believe in? If this would actually occur in reality it would be a conversation like this.
Atheist “What’s Your Husbands Name?”
Christian “Man”
Atheist “Oh. What are your Kids names?”
Christian “Boy, Girl, Male & Female”
Atheist “Really. Well what are your pets names?”
Christian “Dog, Cat & Horse”
The Stupidity behind names like this would be so massive as to make the only fitting response be Facepalm!
The word God as a name is so meaningless because it is so general!
To say I believe in God is as retarded as saying I believe in Male, Female, Dog, Cat, Horse, etc. The logical question is Which one?
You believe (Think) there is a God. Wonderful what is this God's name?
Could you pick it out of a God line up of just 20? Bear in mind there are Thousands of others. Unless you are specific how can we know which one you believe (think) is real?
1. ACHAMOTH 11. HINA
2. ADITI 12. IZANAGI
3. AGUNUA 13. JUPITER
4. ALLAH 14. MULUNGU
5. AKEA 15. ODIN
6. AMA-TERASU-O-MI-KAMI 16. QUETZALCOATL
7. BAIAME 17. RA
8. BILDJIWUAROJU 18.YU-HUANG SHANG-TI
Did you guess?
Achamoth - Mother Goddess Who gave birth to the creator of the material universe, according to early Gnostic Christians.
Zeus - King of the Gods, greatest of the twelve Olympians. He was the god of the heavens, weather, fate, and kings. His weapon was the fiery thunderbolt.
Zeus - King of the Gods, greatest of the twelve Olympians. He was the god of the heavens, weather, fate, and kings. His weapon was the fiery thunderbolt.
Jupiter - Was the supreme god of the Roman pantheon. Jupiter formed one of the triad of gods, with Mars and Quirinus. (Imagine that a Trinity!)
This is only a tiny Fraction of the list of Gods & Goddesses in Human history. You are an Atheist regarding 99.99% of these Gods. All I or any other Atheist have done is to go .01% Further!
To say the existence of a God is Debatable then which God are you referring to? Which God is more debatable then another? If you Pray. When you pray which God are you praying to? Perhaps you should try switching it up if the Yahweh isn’t listening why not try Zeus, or Odin or Ama-Terasu-O-Mi-Kami. Hell, there are thousands upon thousands you can pick from why limit your prayers being answered to just One Tribes favorite deity? After all if you simply believe in a God, Any God then shit Pray to them All. Hedge your bets all the way around.
If you want to claim Your God is real and others are not then give Evidence to Prove this claim. Otherwise it is simply you like one flavor over another. Personally I don’t care about the flavors of non existant Gods. I also don’t have a God Prejudice. I reject them all Equally!
Why don’t you stop being God Prejudice? Or God Racist?
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No Evidence for a God = No God
This should be common sense but I guess some Theists (Christian's & Muslims Mostly) are to stupid to grasp the logic behind this.
Just because you have a fantasy book which talks about an invisible magical being with super powers doesn’t make it true. In order for anyone to assert that their deity exists they must provide Evidence for this.
If you really want to get down to where the Abrahamic religions come from those stories and Gods & Goddesses originate with ancient Sumer. The Sumerians. The Sumerians called their Gods The Anunnaki. Which simply meant those who from Heaven to earth came. These are what we would call Aliens.
There is a mountain of evidence to support the ancient Alien theory and I can cover this in future blogs if need be. I want to stress even though I freely admit the evidence points to the ancient Gods & Goddesses being Aliens I can still say with conviction there is No God!
The reason for this is simple. An Alien race regardless of how evolved they are simply aren’t a God! They may have technology which would blow our mind. But technology doesn’t make you a magical being / a God!
We have technology that people thousands of years ago wouldn’t have been able to grasp. But we are not Gods! We are not all powerful. Neither are Aliens!
Additionally I wouldn’t worship an Alien period.
I would love to talk to them crawl in their head / Find out what makes them tick. But Bowing and Scraping is simply not for me.
However None of the Theists want to admit their so-called God is an Alien race. They don’t want to look at the evidence because then they may have to face the reality that No Being made the Universe!
Quantum Physics does go a long way to explaining how the Universe came into existence. While String Theory does open the door for upwards of ten - twelve dimensions. However None of this gives even the slightest hint to any kind of God thing!
Without Evidence proving a God exists the only logical conclusion is none exist. Invisible Magical Spiritual Flying Blue Smurfs are not real simply because someone may say they are and there is no evidence they don’t exist. There is no evidence they do exist! You do not just assume a fantasy character exists until it can be proven they don’t. This is backwards!
Hell the Quran screws up in basic science as I will show in an up coming blog. I will give the Book, Chapter & Verse in all of the places where I show the Quran Screwing up!
A Conversation with a Theist
As an Atheist I sometimes end up in a debate type situation that turns more and more into the theist trying to argue with me that their God must exist for what amounts to it makes them feel good.
One such example of this was a recent discussion I had on IMVU with a woman that I wasn’t interested in debating religion in the slightest. The name of that Avatar is called Sinfully Amazing. We were in a room I made and I happened to be sitting on an Atheist Chair that I had just happened to make white with a black A. This woman remarked that she liked that chair so me being the gentleman I moved to the one beside it and said, “Oh yes that is the Atheist Chair.” I also did add that I am an Atheist. Note this was not meant to spark any kind of debate / discussion about fantasy magical beings.
Well this woman said she was Catholic. Then added what has to be the absolute dumbest reason for adopting a label that could possibly exist. That being because she was raised Catholic. Even though I didn’t want to get into a debate on the God bullshit I knew I couldn’t not comment on it.
What I said was, “So you believe in a Sadistical Magical being because that’s what you were told to believe?”
To which she had said, “I don’t believe God is Sadistical.”
At this point I was in a position of in for a penny might as well go in for a pound. I then asked, “If the only way a parent can forgive is via the human sacrifice of their child wouldn’t you call that Sadistical? Or Isn’t Think as I demand or be tortured Sadistical?”
Instead of answering these questions she shifted to a completely different justification attempt. That being the desire to see some relative that died again. I do want to point out that the avoidance of questions that the theist can’t honestly answer in a way that makes their fantasy God look nice and sweet is common. However this always leads to a more hostile approach or at the very least one rooted in emotion not logic.
Now looking back on it I guess I could’ve just let this woman have whatever fantasy she wanted just to get away from this bullshit. However once I am in logical, intellectual & philosophical mode it can be tough for me to snap out of that. Not to mention the mountain of logical questions / counter points flood my mind so rapidly often times I speak or in this case type a response without actually thinking.
I said, “Just because you want something to be true doesn’t mean it is.” Then adding, “Like you I have lost those who were close to me and a part of me would love to see them again. However the logical part of me knows this is simply not possible. You are far from the only person that has lost those you love.”
Now to be fair I know this is hitting below the belt because the wish to see some lost loved one again is an emotional justification not a logical one. However I didn’t get totally metaphysical on her with this explaining that even if something exists beyond this physical that we can’t definitively prove with science the idea of a loved one being just like they were in life is simply illogical. The way we are in life is based entirely upon the experiences, culture & time period we happen to be born into. If something transcends death there simply is no logical reason to assume that it would continue to think, reason & behave just as the person did in their physical life. Adding of course that there is no way a person would retain the physical appearance they had in life in some energy form. Since the physical appearance we have is based entirely upon the DNA of our mother and father.
To which I heard something like she believes in God in the nice parts. Which lead me to again respond without thought with, “I never knew belief in God was like a Fast Food Menu. Make Your God Your Way.”
As you can no doubt tell I was in full Atheist mode dealing with a Theist. However then I heard something which really made the Scientific & Atheist part of me go completely bonkers.
She actually said, “You are preaching to the choir.” She then added how she was a nurse and regularly saw people protesting outside the clinic she worked at.
To which I had immediately said, “Those would be Christian’s” Which she agreed but must have failed to realize Catholic is a flavor of Christianity.
At this point I was a bit confused because I was hearing this woman talking about understanding science but yet clinging to an idea that is completely non scientific in nature. I think it was at this point when I asked, “Do you seriously believe the Universe was magically poofed into being?”
This did make her inquire what I meant to which I had added, “The idea that a Magical God caused the Universe to appear from Nothing all on a whim.”
By this point she had degraded into full, (I must defend my God) mode. Which really strikes me as strange given if this God is so all knowing and so powerful why would it need defended by some mere religious believer.
She had asked if I was trying to convert her and I said, “Atheist’s don’t care about conversion since there is nothing to convert to. All I want to do is to cause you to stop and think.”
However this was clearly making her uncomfortable since what I was raising were problems in the God notion that she simply couldn’t explain away. Which means anger is the next emotion to spring forward since honestly she had nothing else. To try and argue a literal bible idea as to why is simply foolish given I had raise things which made it impossible to defend the God and still be fully aware of science.
What surprised me in all of this was how I remained perfectly calm and simply pointed out the flaws in theistic logic. Yet more and more what I got was growing anger and resentment.
This was really not what I had wanted to have happen but I couldn’t see a way out of this situation with her in fully Defend the God notion and me in full Let’s be logical mode.
In the end she left the conversation and I felt completely disgusted since IMVU is not the place where I try to engage in deep conversations. Simply speaking that type of thing is just not fitting for that environment. Yet when I encounter dumb I can’t help but try and get the person to think. Which does lead to defend the beliefs even when the beliefs are completely wacky.
Belief – Evidence = Bullshit
People can believe all sorts of things. Many if not most of the things people honestly believe is really nothing but Bullshit that someone else or another group wants them to believe. Just because you may have convinced yourself about something or had an idea conditioned into your mind / programmed to believe. This doesn’t mean that it is actually true. Your belief in something doesn’t increase the reality of it no more then your disbelief in gravity or magnetism could alter either of those natural forces.
All through human history we have records of people believing in all kinds of Gods & Goddesses. However no one today really believes in 99.9% of those Gods & Goddesses. If someone does believe in a God or Goddess or both it is only the one from his or her religion. The religion they were either born into a family that taught these ideas to them as a child or one that they let themself be convinced to believe in. The reasons for this latter can be extremely varied. However a safe bet can be the desire to gain pleasure or the desire to avoid pain. The truth is we know that people will do far more to avoid pain then they ever will to gain pleasure. This is why advertisements center around pain & pleasure in one form or another.
There are endless examples of the pain / pleasure aspect of human nature. Just watch TV and you will see example after example. Every product that is advertised claims to be wonderful, easy, cheep, etc. You will never see a commercial for a product where they tell you, This sucks, It is a waste of money, It is an absolute pain in the ass, etc. However clearly there are products that in reality are just those things. The intent of the Advertisement is to get you to believe the product or service will be something that you will love or can’t do without. Your belief in a product or service will not make it magically work or be wonderful. All your belief can do is get you to pay for that product or service.
The only way we can reduce our chances of being ripped off is to examine the evidence. Even with that one must be careful not to be suckered by bogus evidence. Just because someone can claim to have a product that does a certain thing and they can show tests of it working and doing what they claim doesn’t mean those tests are accurate or that the results are accurate. When it comes to people trying to profit from something the idea that they wouldn’t lie is simply foolishness. I am not saying everyone is out to trick you. However if you demand solid proof from multiple sources that is the only way to really limit your chances of being deceived.
When it comes to anything but religion people of all different beliefs will have no problem with what I’ve stated. However as soon as I say the same way you demand evidence before paying for some product don’t you think you should demand evidence before buying into a God concept? Then suddenly people get on their, “I must Defend My God” high fucking horse!
If there is an afterlife and let’s assume for the sake of argument there is. How do you know which God or Goddess is the correct one to buy into? Hell how do you know any of the Gods or Goddesses in human history even existed or exist? Let alone will be waiting to give you a pat on the head and a cookie for thinking the correct thoughts. Without Evidence to support the claims of the religion and their afterlife what possible reason could you have for buying it?
You wouldn’t buy a car just because someone says it is wonderful and will give you eternal life. You would want to see evidence supporting this claim. How is the Jesus, God, Allah or any other God story any different? Those pushing that service will sing the praises of it. Not telling you about the down side. Or if they do they will use the Down Side as a type of threat. Believe (Think) as we say or this horrible thing will happen to you.
Right off the bat, doesn’t anyone realize this is called Blackmail, Extortion & Manipulation? If this group claims to be all loving yet their main sales pitch is loaded with Threats. Wouldn’t you conclude what they are selling isn’t all it is cracked up to be? Add to this to believe that thinking certain thoughts can take away your personal responsibility for anything you have done. This is nothing short of Scapegoating. It is not based on any observable quality in nature. It is only based on a desire to be able to pass the buck.
Let’s stop and think about this for a minute. Each person views reality from themself as the center. Everyone else and everything that is going on in reality is seen from the point of view of person / observer. This means even if a God or Goddess would exist that it too would be viewed as something that is separate from each observer / person. Now think about this. If each person views everyone else & everything as going on separate from them would a God or Goddess view reality in that way too? If it would then why should it give a damn about what thoughts are in your head. How would your Thoughts effect that God or Goddess in the slightest? If it wouldn’t view everyone as separate from itself then why would it elect to torture some and reward others? After all if it is viewing reality from the point of view of everyone that exists wouldn’t He, She or It also understand why each person does what they do? Be it good or bad, noble or self-serving? The only way the theistic God works is as an iron fisted dictator. One that is so ruthless as to make Hitler and Stalin look like Saints!
If service to a ruthless iron fisted dictator is your idea of paradise why don’t you move to North Korea. You can be in fucking paradise right now. Living everyday in servitude to a ruthless dictator and worship the dead father. Think about it. A life of absolutely no freedom what so ever! No freedom of choice because with the God of Judaism, Christianity & Islam you don’t even have freedom of Thought. Without freedom of Thought you can’t have freedom of choice. Which means no freewill. Since to have that you must at the very least have the freedom to your own thoughts.
Despite all of this there will be some that cling to their religion despite all evidence that they are simply full of shit. Which is classic Delusional Disorder. Delusional Disorder is defined as a firm belief / conviction in something despite evidence to the contrary! That is what Faith is called. However it should really be called the mental illness that it is. Delusional Disorder.
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